Steve, I appreciate your comments and would appreciate even more hearing from those who can't load the archive files. I'd like some idea of why they are having a problem. I think the web-archives are one of the strong points of MDOsprey. That's the good news (that I'm willing to listen to problems). The bad news is that I have very little to no control over the form the archives take. They are created automatically by software provided by the ISP we have the list contract with and are stored in areas of the sytem totally inaccessible to me. For various reasons, I doubt that the ISP support personnel will be responsive to working with me on this problem, though I will certainly approach them. Now, some information first...MDOsprey is totally unafilliated with the Maryland Ornithological Society. While many of the members of the list are also members of the MOS and, in fact, officers of the MOS, the list itself is not connected with them or any other local or national birding or conservation organization. I keep it this way so people can say what is on their minds (within the bounds of good taste) and Fran and I choose to make the list available to all the birders of Maryland as our way of repaying the tremendous pleasure we have taken from the sport of birding over the years. Having said all this...the MOS web site has gotten a new name but what many may not realize is that it has moved to a new site as well. I am currently exploring a similar move for MDOsprey. Due to the size and complexity of the archives, I don't want to commit to such a move unless they can duplicate the current setup (with, hopefully, a lot more accessibility for me, so I can respond to some of the questions you raised earlier.). In short, changes are being contemplated which should make the service that much better and more responsive to those who subscribe and to those who merely read the archives. The changes will take time, so please be patient and be aware that we are looking for a long-term home for the list that will support an extensive archive and a responsive list at a reasonable cost with reasonable support. If anyone has suggestion, kudos, or complaints (gasp!), please don't hesitate to send them to me directly. My e-mail is <underline>osprey@ari.net</underline> and if you catch me on a good day I might not even yell at you! Grin.... Again, Steve, thank you for voicing your concerns. Best, Norm Saunders <nofill> =============== Norm Saunders Colesville, MD osprey@ari.net