Ospreyers, I agree with Ellen about buying from the bird specialty stores. I support them because I appreciate them for having so many birding related things in one place. I am trying to decide if I want to buy my NG guide from Woodend (Audubon Naturalist Society), (on my way down to the MOS convention on Friday), or wait and see what the vendors at the convention have to offer. J.B. ====================================================== ___ _________/ \_________ Home (304) 292-5072 /- - - - - O O - - - - -\ Work (304) 293-4832 \________'\_v_/`________/ ext. 4456 /_|_|_\ ^ ^ John B. Churchill, M.S. GIS Analyst West Virginia University Natural Resources Analysis Center __ ______ \___/ \__^_ [ ) o\ `__]____)'--'* ]_ ]_ Support Evolution, ... destroy a weakling ! http://www.nrac.wvu.edu/users/jbc/ ======================================================