Bob, There are a couple of spots in the Catskills that should be fairly reliable. A post to this effect was submitted to BIRDCHAT last year. You should be able to find it in the BIRDCHAT archives (I don't have the address handy). -Greg Miller Baltimore, MD ______________________________ Reply Separator ____________________________ _____ Subject: [MDOsprey] Re: Bicknells in PA - NOT Author: mdosprey@ARI.Net (Gyrfal@aol.com) at INTERNET Date: 6/3/99 12:52 PM I must have been suffering from excessive weekend heat and humidity yesterday. The NGS guide does NOT show Bicknell's in the Poconos, it's the Catskills in southern NY, as anyone with a modicum of geographic knowledge can see! Mea culpa. Bob Mumford Darnestown