ospreyites, on a rainy late summer day, thooghts turn to (naturally) birding... MDOSPREY from BIRDCHAT or ID-frontiers. Is anyone still able to read these on the Web? since traffic on these listservres is often heavy, I usually look at them on the Web, through siler's "birding on the web, the next generation," williamson's "zingy birdmail reader," or birder.com's "birding on the web." The first of these is not being updated "for boring technical reasons;" the latter two appear to have disappeared. is anyone having any better luck? thanks, rob Robert Weiner (rweiner@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu) George Washington University Washington DC 20052 202 994 5981