Re: [MDOsprey] ABA List Report for 1998 -Reply -Forwarded
GEORGE JETT (JETT.GEORGE@epamail.epa.gov)
Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:24:13 -0400
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Norm
Suggesting you contribute to ABA is not "stooping to personal insults". Obfuscating the issue, when you
have no factual response, is a common legal technique. You have yet to provide any substantiation for
your claim. You should apologize.
Public opinion. So far I have received six comments supporting my response to you and one that
supported your position.
One more thing. The website for ABA is www.americanbirding.org/. Let the members check it out and
make their own decisions.
As president of MOS you should act more responsible and especially when you are attacking the
character of another organization. ABA is an excellent organization and provides excellent benefits to it's
members. It is not shabby.
I hope this concludes this discussion.
George
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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 10:08:31 -0400
From: Norm Saunders <mdosprey@ARI.Net>
To: mdosprey@ARI.Net, osprey@ARI.Net
Subject: Re: [MDOsprey] ABA List Report for 1998 -Reply
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George,
I suppose it is a mark of what a great country we live in: you are
entitled to your opinion, I am entitled to mine, and we are both
entitled to air them in public if we so choose. I am saddened that
you felt it necessary to stoop to personal insults to make your
point.
Best,
Norm Saunders
Date sent: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 09:07:37 -0400
From: GEORGE JETT <JETT.GEORGE@epamail.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: [MDOsprey] ABA List Report for 1998 -Reply
To: mdosprey@ARI.Net
Copies to: baicich@aba.org, Lawson@aba.org
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> Norm
>
> I found you latest ABA bashing comments, " Why am I not surprised? Dues keep going up and what is
> offered keeps getting shabbier. Maybe it is time to dump this organization?", offensive.
>
> As I said in an earlier comment privately, if you are unhappy, do something productive. I do not share
> your opinion and have yet to see you contribute anything. The magazine continues to be one of the
> leading birding magazines you can get and your unsupported comments are unwelcomed.
>
> The latest issue of Birding has several excellent articles that will help me follow my passion of birds.
> The Night-Heron article will help readers trying to understand the difference of the young birds in the
> field, the delayed plumage article on Orioles helps clear up identification of some confusing birds you
> are likely to see, the tropical island conservation article once again remind one of the need for habitat
> preservation throughout the world, the county listing article could have been written about Marshall, Jim
> or myself but points out the need and desire to understand our local birding arena and the utility of
> understanding habitat, media coverage of birds - ask Jane and Tyler, the photo quiz on wrens could
> help people heading into the little brown bird region of identification, the cowbird point-counterpoint
> issue was educational, choosing a tripod - something I need to do and timing for me, etc. Besides the
> magazine, there are many other services like assistance to young birders, aba sales, etc.
>
> Norm - take a hike. If you want to drop your membership, do it, but do it quietly.
>
> Sorry MD Ospreyers. If influential opinions are to be published, equal time should be provided. The
> characterization ABA as shabby is incorrect.
>
>
>
> George
>
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Norm Saunders
Colesville, MD
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