Sue et al.: When you enter Patterson Park, there is a stop sign after about 3/4 mile. Turn right. After about 2/10 mile, there is a small gravel road that joins the main road from the right. The earth dam is just past that on the main road. You'll know it because of the steep sides on either side of the road. You can park near the intersection with the stop sign or drive over the earth dam and park a little further down the road on the left near the intersection with another gravel road. Good Birding! Tyler Bell mailto:bell@acnatsci.org California, MD http://www.audubon.org/chapter/md/smas/ >>> "sue hamilton" <sue_hamilton@hotmail.com> 10/26/99 06:52PM >>> >Tyler: Could you be more specific the location of this earth dam at JPP? I'd like to drive by & try for some sparrows. By the way, are you sure you didn't hear one of Greg's tapes? Being in the same place two days in a row............... sue ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com