On 11/17/99 2:23 PM MSchell7@aol.com said >One further note - I have >compared the 80mm scope to my old 60mm, side by side, in low light >conditions, and the difference is very significant. If you plan to do much >birding in the early morning or evening I'd sure go for one the bigger >scopes >in spite of the increased weight and bulk. What was your old scope? The new Kowa and Nikon 60 mm scope are made with ED glass, and the difference between on of them and an 80 mm scope may not be so "significant." Elliot Kirschbaum Baltimore, MD USA mailto:ekirschb@bcpl.net