kathy_klimkiewicz@usgs.gov wrote: I have resisted replying to several messages referring to > female Purple Finches. Thought it would be beneficial to all to remind > folks that brown Purple Finches can be females or immature males. It takes > two seasons for males to attain their rose color so they are in brown > plumage until the end of their first breeding season. > > Therefore, brown birds cannot be called female based just on brown plumage. > There is no easy way to id female vs immature male in the field unless the > bird is caught during the breeding season by a bander. Singing brown birds > in spring and summer would be males. Kathy, So glad you didn't resist replying to my report on the Piscataway sightings. I am very glad to know why we could not safely assume we were looking at a female Purple Finch just because it was sporting brown plumage. I am delighted to have seen a Purple Finch of either sex and even more so to have picked up some valuable pointers on field identification of the species. Thanks! Paula Sullivan Alexandria, VA paulas@erols.com