I got booted from the list a few weeks back and had an email dialog with 
Norm. He pointed out that it was likely my ISP's Spam blocking software 
that was the culprit. I sent an email to my ISP complaining. As a result 
they have installed a new Spam blocking software that actually allows me 
to control the Spam blocks. I use a small ISP (www.transbeam.com) so 
most of you will not be so lucky but maybe if enough people start 
complaining some of the bigger ISPs will start fixing things! Remember 
that it is probably not just MD-OSPREY emails that are being eaten up by 
your ISP's Spam sofware!

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Jeff Clark
Fairfax City, VA
http://www.nothoo.com



Norm Saunders wrote:
> Kevin Graff wrote me to ask about a problem with the list he has
> noted this week:
>
>   
>>    When birders post on MDOsprey, it didn't sent to me
>> right away until late each night. I noticed something
>> wrong since Wed. morning.  When I post my Loch Raven
>> list, I alway get them right away in MDOsprey, but now
>> they didn't come to my email until late last night.  
>> I check the MDOsprey archives for Dec 2005 week 2 and
>> all posting are there from this morning and none on my
>> email.   They all work before, but not since Wed.  
>> Any idea.
>>
>> I been using MDOsprey for years and always get the
>> posting on time especially if someonet a rare bird,
>> it'll show up on my and others emailsright away. 
>>     
>
> I'm taking the liberty of responding to the entire list because this
> has been a growing problem over the past month.
>
> Kevin,
>
> There seems to be a problem over the past three weeks or so of
> grossly overzealous spam blockers.  The listserv people say it is
> the problem of the mail administrators not effectively administering
> their spam blocking software and the mail administrators say it is
> lsoft's problem for not contacting them all individually to
> straighten out the mess.
>
> Of course it isn't lsoft or att or yahoo that get hurt, it is you
> and me and the other clients of these companies who collectively
> give not a damn about us.
>
> I was kicked off MDOsprey myself late last week and haven't yet been
> able to begin receiving any of the administrative e-mails I normally
> saw daily from lsoft regarding the list.  ATT refuses to talk to me,
> saying that lsoft needs to deal with them.
>
> This has only been a problem, as I said, over the past 3-4 weeks.
> Several companies selling anti-spam software to the big ISPs have
> suddenly come out with grotesquely over-aggressive algorithms,
> knocking out many, many legitimate e-mails.  Who gets hurt?  Me and
> you, Kevin, and all the other folks who are getting booted from the
> listserv because of this uncaring attitude of both lsoft and the
> isp's.
>
> Complain long and loud to your ISP if this is happening to you and
> tell them they are not taking an adequate responsibility for their
> operation.
>
> I know this is a discouraging and for the most part unhelpful
> message, but I am feeling discouraged as are you.
>
> Norm Saunders
> Owner of MDOsprey and unappreciated client of ATT Worldnet
> Colesville and West Ocean City, MD
>
>
>