If we can verify that it's likely the same bird that's been seen in  
past years, then yes, I would agree with you.

Do we know for sure that a Pied Crow has been observed in that area  
over the past few years? Please let me know. If the answer is 'yes,' i  
have no desire to disturb it.

thanks,
   shireen


On Dec 27, 2011, at 9:57 PM, Bill Hubick wrote:

> Shireen/Everyone,
>
> While I certainly appreciate the good intentions, I feel there  
> should be a "statute of limitations" on "rescuing" a bird. It seems  
> to me that a bird that has survived over five years in a location,  
> including some of our harshest winters, does not need rescuing. This  
> is now a wild bird with a territory and routine, and I can't imagine  
> it would do any better in a cage than the Fish Crows that accompany  
> it. This seems like a very different scenario from a recently  
> escaped parrot or cockatiel. This bird has already lived most of a  
> wild raven's lifespan in southeastern Baltimore, and I can't see a  
> reason to capture a successful bird that is neither starving nor at  
> risk of causing harm to the local ecosystem. I hope this doesn't  
> turn into a heated debate. I am very supportive of wildlife  
> ehabilitation, have a friend and neighbor who rehabilitates birds,  
> and have rescued a number of birds myself. I suggest we leave this  
> bird in the world to which its already
> adapted.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill
>
> Bill Hubick
>
> Pasadena, Maryland
> 
> http://www.billhubick.com
>
>
> ________________________________
>> From: Shireen Gonzaga <>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MDOSPREY] Pied Crow in Baltimore
>>
>> If anyone observes the bird again, or plans to go out to see the  
>> bird, please check the band on its leg -- is it a ring (metal?) or  
>> flat band? If it has gone to another location, please let me know.
>>
>> I'm in touch with a breeder in Georgia who needs more information  
>> to figure out what's going on. Before i call him back, i need to  
>> gather more information about the bird from others who have seen  
>> it. Please email me directly with any comments. Also, can someone  
>> confirm this is the Shoppers at 5722 Ritchie Hwy, Brooklyn Pk.? I'm  
>> not familiar with that area since i live in Towson, but that seems  
>> to be the only Shoppers on Rt. 2 near the stadium.
>>
>> FYI: the breeder's website: http://www.danielwalthers.com/ (it's  
>> one of those webpages with music, so turn off the volume if it  
>> annoys you). I can send his number to anyone wants to talk to him  
>> directly.
>>
>> I don't have a lot of time this week to pursue this (plus dealing  
>> with health issues), so if anyone wants to help or take over, you  
>> are most welcome!
>>
>> Any information would be most appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   shireen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  said:
>>> Becky and I are enjoying close-up studies of the Pied Crow  
>>> (raven!) in Baltimore right now. It's feeding in the Shoppers and  
>>> Hollywood Video parking lot on Route 2. It seems to specialize in  
>>> ripping open paper fast food bags. Tons of photos. (And no, not  
>>> "countable", but who cares! Awesome bird!) Happy Holidays!
>> ----------------------------------
>> Shireen Gonzaga
>> Baltimore, MD 21212
>> 
>>
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