I read with interest the recent thread on lenses. I once spent a bit of time photographing birds but gave up after much frustration. Maybe I was expecting too much too quickly, but I soon found it required a *GREAT* amount of patience to get a great shot (and if you're lucky, two). I found myself more preoccupied with photography than with birding. So I chunked the photography stuff and let that to others who had the time/money to invest in good shots. I figured I could enjoy them in magazines and publications. This was OK as long as I was not being a wild and crazy birder. Last year I did quite a bit of traveling and birding and consequently saw quite a few rarities. Unfortunately, I was by myself, out of state, an unknown birder, and sans photo equipment. AAAAAAARGH! I am yet unwilling to lug around bags of camera and/or sound equipment in addition to my binoculars, telescope, and tripod. Ooof! So I'm looking for a reasonable alternative. I just returned from a birding trip to South Texas in December and carried an inexepensive 8mm video camera. I ended up with some decent coverage of some common birds there (Green Jays, Great Kiskadees, Altamira Oriole, Chachalaca, Whooping Cranes, etc). Sizewize it was easy enough to tote around with my binoculars. However, when I tried trekking around with a scope, too, I found myself too immobilized. I've spent the last couple of months eyeing digital cameras. While digital cameras (under $1000) don't offer the same resolution as conventional cameras, they do offer much more than last year's models. My favorite selection right now is the Sony Mavica FD-7. It offers VGA resolutiion (640x480 pixels) and has excellent color depth. It also has a built in 10x optical zoom lens. The biggest advantage with this camera is that it uses normal diskettes (yes! the kind you use in your PC). It stores pictures in JPEG format (a common format on the Web) on the diskette. The diskette will hold up to 40 pics at low res and 20 pics at high res. Write time to diskette is between 5-7 seconds. The camera is small, compact, and light. In other words, if you were out in the field (with a laptop in your car or at your hotel), you could take a picture of a bird and look at the pics as soon as you fired up your laptop (or home PC). While this all sounds good, I don't have any field experience with this camera. And the only shots I've seen were taken indoors... Does anyone out there have experience with this camera? Is there anything else like it available? Would the 640x480 be enough for rare bird documentation? For some birds but maybe not others? Better than nothing or forget it? -------------------------------- Greg Miller Lusby, MD Home: gregorym@erols.com Work: Gregory.B.Miller@bge.com --------------------------------